The difference a manager can make.

[PenlanJack]

Vipotnik is an elite ball striker
Galbraith is an elite passer

To say you can’t have elite traits in the championship is just obviously incorrect.

Against Championship opponents, step up a level, and it all disappears.. but keep plugging away, you might convince someone with your bullish*t

 

[CommonCents]

Against Championship opponents, step up a level, and it all disappears.. but keep plugging away, you might convince someone with your bullish*t

You can only face your opponent and perform among the best in your division. Many players make the step up and continue into the Premier League. You are guessing about making the step up, but he IS an elite Championship dribbler as Lournos shows in his graphic.

 

[PenlanJack]

You can only face your opponent and perform among the best in your division. Many players make the step up and continue into the Premier League. You are guessing about making the step up, but he IS an elite Championship dribbler as Lournos shows in his graphic.

You're cherry picking data to suit your agenda, show us the game by game statistics individually, but you won't, because you're out of your depth

 

[CommonCents]

You're cherry picking data to suit your agenda, show us the game by game statistics individually, but you won't, because you're out of your depth

Game by game is not important vs the whole picture, which Lournos shows at the time of the graphic. But I am sure you can tweet him and ask. He’s a Watford fan, he has no interest in making Swansea look good and is actually very very good analyst.

 

[PenlanJack]

Game by game is not important vs the whole picture, which Lournos shows at the time of the graphic. He’s a Watford fan, he has no interest in making Swansea look good and is actually very very good analyst.

Hahaha f*cking mug, someone should show the owners his statistics individually, cherry picking nonsense to justify your incompetence

 

[CommonCents]

Hahaha f*cking mug, someone should show the owners his statistics individually, cherry picking nonsense to justify your incompetence

You have to be drunk surely.

 

[PenlanJack]

You have to be drunk surely.

What's the matter Dimi, feeling out of your depth, so you resort to personal stuff, anyway good luck, you're going to need it

 

[CommonCents]

What's the matter Dimi, feeling out of your depth, so you resort to personal stuff, anyway good luck, you're going to need it

Oh I see, I thought you felt I was Lournos, equally batty but yes sure. Put the bottle down for God’s sake

 

[PenlanJack]

Oh I see, I thought you felt I was Lournos, equally batty but yes sure. Put the bottle down for God’s sake

This ladies and gentlemen is our head of recruitment, and I'm batty

 

[CommonCents]

This ladies and gentlemen is our head of recruitment, and I'm batty

Yes you a very much batty!

 

[Londonlisa2001]

You can only face your opponent and perform among the best in your division. Many players make the step up and continue into the Premier League. You are guessing about making the step up, but he IS an elite Championship dribbler as Lournos shows in his graphic.

FWIW I think Inoussa is a very good player. Certainly our best wide player by some distance. We fall down though as half of what he creates, probably three quarters of what he creates, comes to absolutely nothing as we lack the forwards or breaking midfielders to anticipate what he is doing.

Given that chart and the fact he’s only had 2 assists this season there are only two possibilities - the chart is wrong, or we have the wrong forwards to take advantage of his play.

On Vipotnik, he is a great striker of a ball. That doesn’t mean he’s a great striker. (For reasons given above).

Idah may be. Hasn’t had enough of a chance as yet to tell but I like his movement and anticipation. He and Inoussa may well end up being the correct pairing.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading.

Vig international
Burgess international
Cabango international
Stamenic international
Eom international
Galbraith international
Idah intetnational
Cullen international
Vipotnik international
Benson international

Inoussa u21 international
Widell u21 international

Yep we’ve really got a lot of very average players that’s for sure.

Jay Bothroyd was a full England international mind.

 

[CommonCents]

FWIW I think Inoussa is a very good player. Certainly our best wide player by some distance. We fall down though as half of what he creates, probably three quarters of what he creates, comes to absolutely nothing as we lack the forwards or breaking midfielders to anticipate what he is doing.

Given that chart and the fact he’s only had 2 assists this season there are only two possibilities - the chart is wrong, or we have the wrong forwards to take advantage of his play.

On Vipotnik, he is a great striker of a ball. That doesn’t mean he’s a great striker. (For reasons given above).

Idah may be. Hasn’t had enough of a chance as yet to tell but I like his movement and anticipation. He and Inoussa may well end up being the correct pairing.

I don’t disagree, I’m sure that final action is what they are working on now. The chart also doesn’t show the impact in the build up, so xG created as a result of his involvement, so assists of assists for example which is where he is effective. He injects directness into the game, commits defenders and creates space for others. The best example of this is this goal vs Millwall, he didn’t get the assist in the column but he created that goal:

 

[Copamundial]

Jay Bothroyd was a full England international mind.

Good player too…so what’s your point?

 

[Smurph]

Good player too…so what’s your point?

We very well may have a team of full internationals, the reality of that means very little in the context of their ability.

If they were playing for the likes of Spain, Brazil, France and so on, you might have a point.