Southampton

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

fine them £20 million and distribute the money to all championship clubs.

Stick a zero on the end and you’ve got a deal.

 

[J_B]

Stick a zero on the end and you’ve got a deal.

Yeah. £200M game so fine them 10%?
No deterrent at all. Crime pays.

 

[bakajack]

fine them £20 million and distribute the money to all championship clubs.

This would be absolutely zero incentive whatsoever to stop cheating

 

[monmouth]

I really hope they don't back down. Here's some responses to their snivelling club statement.

Here’s the social media reaction as the Southampton CEO Phil Parsons issues a statement hitting out at the ‘manifestly disproportionate’ punishment they face….

@glenn_coin: You sound like you were taking promotion for granted. The only thing you are guaranteed to lose is 4 points and Wembley gate receipts. You were willing to deny Boro a shot at the £200m prize by cheating. That’s the harsh reality you face.

@BurntKneeCap: You shouldn’t be in a position to win a game worth over £200 million after cheating. I hope that clears everything up.

@jamesdelve: The £200mil isn’t a fine. It wasn’t yours. You weren’t guaranteed it. The reason you can’t fight for it is all your own doing. Sit down and shut up.

@DanJGrey: You cheated your way to the playoff final, therefore you don’t deserve to be in it. It’s very simple, really.

@Sfc_Lanky: what we did was bad but look at other clubs who were more bad!!!!!!!! (summarised it for you)

@pierreuk: I don’t understand Southampton’s logic of ‘being denied the chance to win £200m’ – didn’t you do that to us and all other teams by spying throughout the season? Why should you deserve that opportunity?!

@Dann23MFC: What about the financial losses Middlesbrough would suffer due to you cheating to gain an advantage? What about the financial losses to Derby, Wrexham due to you cheating to your league position?

@Bob_2969: You’ve not lost the equivalent £200m, you still needed to win the game. You’ve lost the chance to possibly gain promotion the same way that your cheating may have robbed Wrexham a chance at promotion. Systematic cheating that you knew was against the rules

@Danielw26738836: No one has ever been caught cheating on the eve of the playoffs, it is a 200 million pound game your right, which makes the cheating all the worse! You should have sacked those involved by now, not if it’s not reversed! Sort yourselves out! And more importantly, have some respect

@Josh_Fulford98: Absolutely embarrassing. Just playing the victim now – 1 minor sentence acknowledging the fans. We have no right to be playing Saturday, it’s a mortifying time for our fan base

@andyboro92: Talk about deflection wow… I genuinely feel bad for your fans what a load of shite that statement is, not a word about how much time and money you’ve cost them just completely fucked them about

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

I really hope they don't back down. Here's some responses to their snivelling club statement.

Here’s the social media reaction as the Southampton CEO Phil Parsons issues a statement hitting out at the ‘manifestly disproportionate’ punishment they face….

@glenn_coin: You sound like you were taking promotion for granted. The only thing you are guaranteed to lose is 4 points and Wembley gate receipts. You were willing to deny Boro a shot at the £200m prize by cheating. That’s the harsh reality you face.

@BurntKneeCap: You shouldn’t be in a position to win a game worth over £200 million after cheating. I hope that clears everything up.

@jamesdelve: The £200mil isn’t a fine. It wasn’t yours. You weren’t guaranteed it. The reason you can’t fight for it is all your own doing. Sit down and shut up.

@DanJGrey: You cheated your way to the playoff final, therefore you don’t deserve to be in it. It’s very simple, really.

@Sfc_Lanky: what we did was bad but look at other clubs who were more bad!!!!!!!! (summarised it for you)

@pierreuk: I don’t understand Southampton’s logic of ‘being denied the chance to win £200m’ – didn’t you do that to us and all other teams by spying throughout the season? Why should you deserve that opportunity?!

@Dann23MFC: What about the financial losses Middlesbrough would suffer due to you cheating to gain an advantage? What about the financial losses to Derby, Wrexham due to you cheating to your league position?

@Bob_2969: You’ve not lost the equivalent £200m, you still needed to win the game. You’ve lost the chance to possibly gain promotion the same way that your cheating may have robbed Wrexham a chance at promotion. Systematic cheating that you knew was against the rules

@Danielw26738836: No one has ever been caught cheating on the eve of the playoffs, it is a 200 million pound game your right, which makes the cheating all the worse! You should have sacked those involved by now, not if it’s not reversed! Sort yourselves out! And more importantly, have some respect

@Josh_Fulford98: Absolutely embarrassing. Just playing the victim now – 1 minor sentence acknowledging the fans. We have no right to be playing Saturday, it’s a mortifying time for our fan base

@andyboro92: Talk about deflection wow… I genuinely feel bad for your fans what a load of shite that statement is, not a word about how much time and money you’ve cost them just completely fucked them about

I’m not on social media but everything I’ve read suggests that Southampton have handled this appallingly.

Unless they’re willing to disclose exactly who at the club knew in December/January (think that was the 1st instance) they haven’t got a leg to stand on. And, if at that point anyone not on the football side knew what was going on they should have reported themselves to the EFL, accepted the 3point (or similar) deduction & fine.

Instead it carried on for 4/5 months!

 

[monmouth]

I’m not on social media but everything I’ve read suggests that Southampton have handled this appallingly.

Unless they’re willing to disclose exactly who at the club knew in December/January (think that was the 1st instance) they haven’t got a leg to stand on. And, if at that point anyone not on the football side knew what was going on they should have reported themselves to the EFL, accepted the 3point (or similar) deduction & fine.

Instead it carried on for 4/5 months!

Convenient that they only owned up to games they didn't win too. I bet they did it every game after the first time the new manager came up with the wheeze.

 

[JackSomething]

That Southampton statement saying this is the biggest punishment ever handed out is pissing me off, as is the media's crap response. I thought immediately, didn't Swindon suffer a bigger punishment back in the 80's?

Quick Google and I was right. Swindon actually won the then Second Division Playoff Final to get to the top flight, but were found guilty of multiple dodgy payments to players and not only were they not promoted, they were relegated to the Third Division! It's a slap on the wrist in comparison to that (I'm aware it's a different offence, but so are the cases Southampton compared themselves to).

 

[Swanjaxs]

Hull would beat Southampton anyway.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Convenient that they only owned up to games they didn't win too. I bet they did it every game after the first time the new manager came up with the wheeze.

There’ll be championship clubs across the country going through their CCTV as we speak I expect.

 

[Westwiltsjack]

I know nothing of such matters, but they can't possibly reverse this, can they? Such a decision would disadvantage so many others, it would create legal chaos. Feel sorry for the majority of fans, must be mortifying. Best the club can do is accept it all and grovel a lot and hope the stigma subsides in the shorter term.

 

[bakajack]

That Southampton statement saying this is the biggest punishment ever handed out is pissing me off, as is the media's crap response. I thought immediately, didn't Swindon suffer a bigger punishment back in the 80's?

Quick Google and I was right. Swindon actually won the then Second Division Playoff Final to get to the top flight, but were found guilty of multiple dodgy payments to players and not only were they not promoted, they were relegated to the Third Division! It's a slap on the wrist in comparison to that (I'm aware it's a different offence, but so are the cases Southampton compared themselves to).

Southampton have tried to play the pity card
I have seen BBC Southampton wheeling out the dinosaurs with ties to Southampton to reinforce the "its too harsh" narrative. If you cheat in any kind of tournament you get kicked out of said tournament, that's not rocket science.

Imagine winning the semi final round of a £1m poker tournament by cheating, you get found out and admit to cheating in several previous rounds too and your only punishment was a £20k fine and you were still allowed to continue onto the final.

Fucking deluded

 

[monmouth]

Hull would beat Southampton anyway.

Yes, the actual punishment as it stands today is a 4 point deduction next season, and the loss of whatever receipts you get from a Wembley final. The rest is just conjecture.

 

[PenlanJack]

The majority of businessman have dabbled in the old "thieving" stuff to get a leg up in the business world.. football players and betting is a big one.. Police won't do anything because they're probably betting on said matches.. the world is bent.. so they can sit on their a*ses and become ardent alcoholics living fabricated bollocks.. drugs is another one.. everyone needs to grow up

 

[CygnusX1]

That Southampton statement saying this is the biggest punishment ever handed out is pissing me off, as is the media's crap response. I thought immediately, didn't Swindon suffer a bigger punishment back in the 80's?

Quick Google and I was right. Swindon actually won the then Second Division Playoff Final to get to the top flight, but were found guilty of multiple dodgy payments to players and not only were they not promoted, they were relegated to the Third Division! It's a slap on the wrist in comparison to that (I'm aware it's a different offence, but so are the cases Southampton compared themselves to).

That is interesting

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

That Southampton statement saying this is the biggest punishment ever handed out is pissing me off, as is the media's crap response. I thought immediately, didn't Swindon suffer a bigger punishment back in the 80's?

Quick Google and I was right. Swindon actually won the then Second Division Playoff Final to get to the top flight, but were found guilty of multiple dodgy payments to players and not only were they not promoted, they were relegated to the Third Division! It's a slap on the wrist in comparison to that (I'm aware it's a different offence, but so are the cases Southampton compared themselves to).

I think they actually stayed in the second tier after their appeal, but doesn’t take away your point that it’s clearly a bigger punishment as they’d actually been promoted.