PPM for electric vehicles?

[Bluenile]

This woman thinks charging 3p per mile tax on electric vehicles is a good idea. Electric car sales have already slowed by a substantial amount over the last 12 months, she's about to kill off 90% of what potential sales there might be. Crazy!

 

[Smurph]

If this rumor is true, you'd certainly have to question her suitability for the role and those advising and supporting her.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

So how do you replace the money lost from fuel duty?

 

[Smurph]

So how do you replace the money lost from fuel duty?

That's why they're paid the big bucks.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

That's why they're paid the big bucks.

Not an answer but I’ll try another one. Electric vehicle owners don’t pay fuel duty. It costs other drivers a lot of money. Do you think drivers of electric cars should make a similar contribution to drivers of ICE cars?

 

[monmouth]

So how do you replace the money lost from fuel duty?

You might argue I guess that the premium cost of electric vehicles over petrol equivalents yields more tax?

I doubt this one will come off anyway. There's a lot of kite flying going on still, and she's got to have things to say she could have done but chose not to.

 

[Smurph]

Not an answer but I’ll try another one. Electric vehicle owners don’t pay fuel duty. It costs other drivers a lot of money. Do you think drivers of electric cars should make a similar contribution to drivers of ICE cars?

No I don't.

This government like others knew there would be a void that needed filling.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

You might argue I guess that the premium cost of electric vehicles over petrol equivalents yields more tax?

I doubt this one will come off anyway. There's a lot of kite flying going on still, and she's got to have things to say she could have done but chose not to.

You could argue it, but it would be wrong.

You may be right on the second para. Potential budget measures always get leaked to test the water. But I think this one has to happen and will.

 

[Smurph]

You might argue I guess that the premium cost of electric vehicles over petrol equivalents yields more tax?

I doubt this one will come off anyway. There's a lot of kite flying going on still, and she's got to have things to say she could have done but chose not to.

Out of every pound that we earn, how much is actually left when we've finished paying tax on absolutely everything.

Income tax, council tax, road tax, VAT, the list goes on and on.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

No I don't.

This government like others knew there would be a void that needed filling.

Ok. I fundamentally disagree but that’s fine. Where would you find the money to replace the lost fuel duty then?

 

[Smurph]

Ok. I fundamentally disagree but that’s fine. Where would you find the money to replace the lost fuel duty then?

Not my job to find it.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Not my job to find it.

I had a feeling that would be the answer.

 

[monmouth]

You could argue it, but it would be wrong.

You may be right on the second para. Potential budget measures always get leaked to test the water. But I think this one has to happen and will.

Practicalities would be difficult? Why is the more purchase tax and VAT wrong, by the way? Interested. If 2 million ICE cars are sold at £30k rather than 2 million electric at £50k?

Other than on city solution grounds I think (without any deep research to be fair) the whole electric car idea is a load od nonsense anyway. Neither greener nor cheaper on a lifecycle basis.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Practicalities would be difficult? Why is the more purchase tax and VAT wrong, by the way? Interested. If 2 million ICE cars are sold at £30k rather than 2 million electric at £50k?

Other than on city solution grounds I think (without any deep research to be fair) the whole electric car idea is a load od nonsense anyway. Neither greener nor cheaper on a lifecycle basis.

The practicalities are indeed horrendous. I didn’t say the extra purchase tax and VAT points were wrong. It just doesn’t outweigh the amount of fuel duty lost and will be lost as take up increases. And there’s a fundamental point about fairness too. Fuel duty costs a lot for everyone who pays it. Electric car drivers don’t pay a penny of it. And then there’s all the sensible arguments around the incentives being eroded while also encouraging EV take up. Tricky decisions. Governing is hard. Glad I don’t have to do it.

 

[Jack2jack]

Everyone who uses the road should pay tax, it's that simple. Unfortunately folk were sold a pup, by thinking they would swerve any meaning full tax. And on a side note the roads were never designed to take the weight of heavier vehicles. A road with an expected design life of 25 years is going to crumble in half that time, notwithstanding that most of the roads in the UK are fcked anyway. It's my view that road tax should go towards some highway maintenance.